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	<title>Comments on: Death of the Self Help Seminar</title>
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		<title>By: Jack Bennett</title>
		<link>http://www.adaringadventure.com/life-coaching/death-of-the-self-help-seminar/#comment-10085</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Carl

I&#039;m sorry to hear that your result from the workshop wasn&#039;t what you hoped it would be. I was also a participant and my experience was, shall we say, *radically* different.

I&#039;m kind of late to the party and I only have a few minutes to comment right now, but I&#039;d like to mention a couple of points.

- I can think of at least six people at the workshop whom I met personally, and have stayed in touch with, who made highly significant changes in their lives within a few weeks following the seminar (we&#039;re talking &#039;leave job / spouse&#039;-scale of life changes). For more than 5% of the group to make such radical changes so quickly doesn&#039;t seem to be a bad success rate.

- A substantial part of the value of the workshop for me personally was the creation of a network of people with common values and interests who became friends, got to know each other during our time in Vegas, and stayed in touch.  The majority of this social activity did not occur during the short minutes of pair work during the workshop itself, but during informal times like lunch, dinner, going out on the town, and so forth.

- As Bud pointed out, many people have remained in touch via facebook, formed mastermind groups, and otherwise created support networks to extend the short term &quot;motivational vibe&quot; into long term life changes.

- At the end of the workshop, general feedback seemed to be that the one-on-ones went a bit longer than strictly necessary to be valuable for the group as a whole. Your criticism of that was on target and aligned with the general consensus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Carl</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to hear that your result from the workshop wasn&#8217;t what you hoped it would be. I was also a participant and my experience was, shall we say, *radically* different.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m kind of late to the party and I only have a few minutes to comment right now, but I&#8217;d like to mention a couple of points.</p>
<p>- I can think of at least six people at the workshop whom I met personally, and have stayed in touch with, who made highly significant changes in their lives within a few weeks following the seminar (we&#8217;re talking &#8216;leave job / spouse&#8217;-scale of life changes). For more than 5% of the group to make such radical changes so quickly doesn&#8217;t seem to be a bad success rate.</p>
<p>- A substantial part of the value of the workshop for me personally was the creation of a network of people with common values and interests who became friends, got to know each other during our time in Vegas, and stayed in touch.  The majority of this social activity did not occur during the short minutes of pair work during the workshop itself, but during informal times like lunch, dinner, going out on the town, and so forth.</p>
<p>- As Bud pointed out, many people have remained in touch via facebook, formed mastermind groups, and otherwise created support networks to extend the short term &#8220;motivational vibe&#8221; into long term life changes.</p>
<p>- At the end of the workshop, general feedback seemed to be that the one-on-ones went a bit longer than strictly necessary to be valuable for the group as a whole. Your criticism of that was on target and aligned with the general consensus.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard &#124; RichardShelmerdine.com</title>
		<link>http://www.adaringadventure.com/life-coaching/death-of-the-self-help-seminar/#comment-9945</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard &#124; RichardShelmerdine.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew it&#039;d be Steve Pavlina. Awesome site but he&#039;s not done much in the way of seminars. The one you went too is his second.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew it&#8217;d be Steve Pavlina. Awesome site but he&#8217;s not done much in the way of seminars. The one you went too is his second.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Brownson</title>
		<link>http://www.adaringadventure.com/life-coaching/death-of-the-self-help-seminar/#comment-9903</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Brownson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ David - ROTFLMA - &lt;strong&gt;I&#039;m&lt;/strong&gt; being superficial?? Is that right? 

Every post I do is under my own name, every comment I make on other peoples blogs is under my name and can be linked back to here. 

You otoh are gutless, clueless and pointless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ David &#8211; ROTFLMA &#8211; <strong>I&#8217;m</strong> being superficial?? Is that right? </p>
<p>Every post I do is under my own name, every comment I make on other peoples blogs is under my name and can be linked back to here. </p>
<p>You otoh are gutless, clueless and pointless.</p>
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		<title>By: David Sharder</title>
		<link>http://www.adaringadventure.com/life-coaching/death-of-the-self-help-seminar/#comment-9898</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sharder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 04:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, you are being superficial

All facade and no content

You are even censoring content. You give dismissive replies then offer no chance for others to answer you fully.  When it comes to information, all that matters is the info.  So what is scaring you?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, you are being superficial</p>
<p>All facade and no content</p>
<p>You are even censoring content. You give dismissive replies then offer no chance for others to answer you fully.  When it comes to information, all that matters is the info.  So what is scaring you?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Brownson</title>
		<link>http://www.adaringadventure.com/life-coaching/death-of-the-self-help-seminar/#comment-9892</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Brownson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ David - Or should I say Lance? Let&#039;s hope people are a damn site more sophisticated than &lt;strong&gt; you &lt;/strong&gt;

If you&#039;re going to comment under multiple names at least change your e-mail address you muppet! I can still see the IP but it wouldn&#039;t flag my attention so obviously.

Curious to know why you don&#039;t just post under your real name. I have 3 of them here, which one is it big fella?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ David &#8211; Or should I say Lance? Let&#8217;s hope people are a damn site more sophisticated than <strong> you </strong></p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to comment under multiple names at least change your e-mail address you muppet! I can still see the IP but it wouldn&#8217;t flag my attention so obviously.</p>
<p>Curious to know why you don&#8217;t just post under your real name. I have 3 of them here, which one is it big fella?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Brownson</title>
		<link>http://www.adaringadventure.com/life-coaching/death-of-the-self-help-seminar/#comment-9891</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Brownson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Carl - Moi? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Carl &#8211; Moi? ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.adaringadventure.com/life-coaching/death-of-the-self-help-seminar/#comment-9888</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sami - You make some really interesting and valuable points.

Briefly - yes, pers dev is SO broad that to try to cover everything / lots in 3 days is a bit mad.

Also, whilst I do know a fair bit from 3 years of studying self growth, I WAS promised new ways to explore my spirituality, etc, which were lacking, which is why I got the hump; however, I would agree that people with less knowledge of this area would have got more out of it, so I can see your point. Perhaps these seminars are great for newbies only??

A narrow focus would be best, I agree. Spending 10 mins on EVERY area of your life is a bit of a pointless exercise, IMO.


@ Tony - Brownson went and posted this article in SP&#039;s forum too, so I think the cat would have leapt out of the bag at some point anyway ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sami &#8211; You make some really interesting and valuable points.</p>
<p>Briefly &#8211; yes, pers dev is SO broad that to try to cover everything / lots in 3 days is a bit mad.</p>
<p>Also, whilst I do know a fair bit from 3 years of studying self growth, I WAS promised new ways to explore my spirituality, etc, which were lacking, which is why I got the hump; however, I would agree that people with less knowledge of this area would have got more out of it, so I can see your point. Perhaps these seminars are great for newbies only??</p>
<p>A narrow focus would be best, I agree. Spending 10 mins on EVERY area of your life is a bit of a pointless exercise, IMO.</p>
<p>@ Tony &#8211; Brownson went and posted this article in SP&#8217;s forum too, so I think the cat would have leapt out of the bag at some point anyway ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.adaringadventure.com/life-coaching/death-of-the-self-help-seminar/#comment-9887</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Errr...now I feel really bad about mentioning he-who-shall-not-be-named&#039;s name! :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Errr&#8230;now I feel really bad about mentioning he-who-shall-not-be-named&#8217;s name! :(</p>
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